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Title: Clanbook: Toreador by Heather Grove, Greg Stolze ISBN: 1-56504-269-7 Publisher: White Wolf Publishing Inc. Pub. Date: September, 2000 Format: Paperback Volumes: 1 List Price(USD): $14.95 |
Average Customer Rating: 3.5 (4 reviews)
Rating: 5
Summary: An inspiring view on the Beautiful Clan
Comment: The best thing about the revised clanbooks is that they are mainly focused on improving the game's setting and literature.
Clanbook: Toreador is not an exception. Compared to the previous clanbook, this one almost brings no mechanics and game systems. I think this is OK, since in the main Storyteller rulebooks we already have more rules than we might be able to explore in a lifetime.
As a storyteller, what I really expect from a clanbook is to give me a deeper view on the clan, and this book does it very well.
The text is mature and intelligent, and avoids wasting much time with silly statements such as "the Toreador divide themselves into two groups, the Artists and the Poseurs", and things like that.
The reading is also interesting and fun. This Clanbook tells us a lot and still keeps many things mysterious, as it should be.
Read the original clanbook too, if you like. You will find some useful rules and system that are completely absent here.
But, if roleplaying is the most important part of the game for you, and if you like to have a good time reading, this one is the book for you.
It's an inspiring and charming view on the most passionate of clans.
Rating: 1
Summary: Weaker than its predcessor and other Clanbooks
Comment: I have to admit, this is the first of the new Clanbooks that genuinely disappointed me. I pored over Tzimisce, Ventrue, and Lasombra, and was delighted with what I found in Tremere and the others I've seen. In contrast to the non-Revised edition, I found Clanbook: Toreador to be a pale imitation. As other reviewers have stated, gone are the additional Merits and Flaws of the first edition. Similarly, the guidelines for creative expression in the game, which provided an interesting framework to see if artistic pieces met with the standards of their creator, have similarly been removed. I'm sure an argument could be made that they were overly mechanical in their treatment of art, but it's nice to have a framework to examine, even if individual Storytellers or players disagreed with the system.
There's been a recent move in the Revised Edition Vampire books to make ancient history more nebulous, which is probably a good decision. Not every Clanbook has to reveal the ultimate secrets of the Antedilluvians, but the Revised Toreador book heads too far in this direction, I believe. The history insinuates that famous figures from Greece and Rome were Toreador, seeming to fly in the face of the Revised Edition's move *away* from making every celebrity a Vampire.
The medieval elder who narrates the clan's ancient history spins a yarn that I'm sure was designed to shake up our conceptions of what Noddist history is all about... but just ends up falling a little flat. There isn't enough there to make me think we have the story wrong... only enough discrepancies to make me believe our first-person narrator is misinformed. Similarly, the focus on moving away from Eurocentric conceptions of Toreador is overdone. What was handled elegantly in Clanbook: Tzimisce Revised (with its treatment of Indian and African methusalehs), now reads like a sophomoric attempt to apologize for previous editions by overly focusing on Africa. There's little to no treatment of Toreador in the Middle East, ignoring a fascinating period of the Toreador's development that the Dark Ages books are expanding almost monthly.
In the end, Clanbook Toreador Revised failed disastrously for me. It's the first of the Revised Clanbooks that I wouldn't recommend to anyone, and would instead direct you to its predecessor.
Rating: 4
Summary: Toreador Perspective
Comment: I've been an avid player of V:tM for a few years now and I think that in contrast to the first clanbook, I think this one has a little more to it. I own both books and was extremely happy to see the added features to the new book. Although I was a tad bit upset over the lack of certain elements. I think that if you indeed, decide to purchase this book, also get the older version.
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Title: Clanbook: Ventrue by Richard Dakan, Deird're Brooks ISBN: 1565042557 Publisher: White Wolf Publishing Inc. Pub. Date: October, 2000 List Price(USD): $14.95 |
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Title: Clanbook: Brujah by Justin Achilli, Deird're Brooks ISBN: 1565042670 Publisher: White Wolf Publishing Inc. Pub. Date: May, 2000 List Price(USD): $14.95 |
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Title: Clanbook: Gangrel by James Kiley, Ellen Kiley ISBN: 1565042654 Publisher: White Wolf Publishing Inc. Pub. Date: August, 2000 List Price(USD): $14.95 |
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Title: Clanbook: Giovanni by Greg Stolze, John Chambers, Justin Achilli ISBN: 1588462072 Publisher: White Wolf Publishing Inc. Pub. Date: April, 2001 List Price(USD): $14.95 |
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Title: Clanbook: Malkavian by Ethan Skemp, Jess Heinig ISBN: 1565042689 Publisher: White Wolf Publishing Inc. Pub. Date: June, 2000 List Price(USD): $14.95 |
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